The thing that Carl hates most in life is disappointing me.
You might have gasped.
What ungodly voodoo potionare the men of Bravo drinking these days?
One has to wonder.
But one of us consumed the season passively, often scrolling on her phone as she watched.
That way I wasnt creating consistent anxiety for myself.
Jacket: Reiss; Tank: Agolde; Skirt: Vince
Her skinwhich she tells me later had been a source of insecurity over the yearsis clear and smooth.
Her eye contact is almost disarmingly unwavering.
She came to talk and thats just what shes doing.
During its eight-season run, inhabitants of the summer house have come and gone (Jules, anyone?
), but Hubbard and Radke have stayed the course since episode one.
For the most part this pairing intrigued viewers.
Danielle Olivera, Jesse Solomon, Paige DeSorbo, Hubbard, Ciara Miller, Radke, Kyle Cooke, Amanda Batula, West Wilson, Gabby Prescod
Radke was a reformed fuckboy who entered season six sober for the first time.
They seemed to agree that renting a$13,000-a-monthapartment was reasonable.
They called each other babe a lot.
Last seasons beachside proposal appeared to shut the book on the single lives of two classic reality-TV personalities.
My delivery was terrible, Hubbard admits when I ask her about it.
Why he was being aggressive and dismissive.
At that point in time, it reminded me of the old Carl.
Well, we all know what old Carl means.
Radke was insecure about not having a clear career path; Hubbard wanted stability.
To never question, negate, or worry about whats ahead.
To cajole and nod and massage.
Tighter, he says, while his fiancee complies, looking visibly uncomfortable.
My skin was crawling, Hubbard tells me now.
Hubbard is excited for the future.
Its a built-in income system, she says.
She tells me Hubbhouse has been booked every single week.
Sometimes multiple times a week.
As promised, Lindsay Hubbard came to talk and she delivered.
Glamour: How has it really been watching the last season?
Lindsay Hubbard:The beginning was a little rough.
Its had its ups and downs.
I knew going in that it was going to be challenging, having to relive a past relationship.
I kept reminding myself, You have a lot going on in the present and in the future.
Was there anything you were genuinely surprised by as you watched?
Were a cast of 10 and were an ensemble for a reason.
We can only be in so many places at once.
Watching it back, Id say, I had no idea he felt that way.
I thought everything was fine.
Having those girls and their support last summer was just so helpful.
Do you feel like there was judgment in past seasons?
So it was really nice to have that safe space to be able to share my emotions.
I want to talk more about sobergate.
Can you talk me through the accusation you made and the story behind it?
Well, first of all, that particular night was our very first in the house.
I was on edge.
Im walking into a house with a bunch of girls who the previous summer had seemingly hated me.
I had a lot of anxiety about whats going to happen.
We missed the first weekend.
Were coming in almost on our back foot.
Im drinking more, just slugging rose, and Carls behavior was off.
I dont think its wrong of me to question when someones behavior is off.
I didnt have a microphone on, and Im just venting.
Its impossible not to.
At the end of the day, Carl was the love of my life.
This was the guy Im about to marry and spend the rest of my life with.
He was my partner.
He was my future husband.
So when Im questioning certain behaviors of his, it came from the right place.
Shit delivery, though.
I want to talk about you and Carl trying to communicate all season.
As a viewer and a woman, I felt uncomfortable with the way you guys talked about the future.
I truly was so confused in those moments.
Im literally just asking the most normal, simple, basic questions.
Were on national television, and Im accidentally making him look dumb by asking normal questions.
Like youre intentionally knocking him down on TV.
But Im asking these questions because Im a businesswoman and an entrepreneur, and I have experience.
All my friends ever tell me is how expensive kids are.
He knows that Im a hard worker and I plan ahead.
Why are you now thinking thats going to change?
Do you feel like you dodged a bullet?
I was so in it, and Im such a fighter.
When did you start to see them?
When the breakup happened, I surrounded myself with my girlfriends.
Gabby [Prescod] came over every single day for, legitimately, two weeks straight.
And we would sit and talk and talk.
Im not going to pretend like there wasnt an element to that.
In my mind, its like, Oh my God.
I fell in love with my best friend, and now I get to marry my best friend.
What a fairytale come true.
Do you ever see Carl around?
Yeah, I do.
There was a wedding in Portugal a month ago that both of us were at.
Did you say hi?
It was before the reunion and there was no point in small talk.
For the most part, hes just another guy in the room to me.
Are you done with those objectives you set for yourself?
Oh, I abandoned those timelines.
The universe has bigger plans, and Im not fighting it anymore.
Do you feel nervous about filming with Carl next season?
Its almost a year ago that we broke up, and I did a lot of healing.
Are you more over it than angry?
When Im watching it, Im seeing a past relationship and its infuriating.
But when I run into him at a wedding, for example, I feel indifferent.
Im just more over it than any other emotion.
Like I said, hes like another guy in the room.
That seems admirably mature.
Ive completely moved on in my life and I have so much to focus on in my future.
Are you dating someone new?
He lives and works here in New York.
Would he ever consider being on the show?
We havent really gotten deep into those conversations.
Would you ever consider leavingSummer House?
I would be onSummer Houseuntil I was 100.
You still like doing it that much?
I think it was a really good dynamic all around with this cast.
But the stakes feel higher now.
Youve watched my journey from day one.
Youve seen me in and out of different relationships.
Youve followed my career in PR and out of PR.
Youve dived into my family and childhood trauma.
I had a miscarriage and I talked about it.
Ive had ups and downs with my friendships on the show.
Are you still in that same apartment you lived in with Carl?
I actually just renewed my lease for another year.
Whats the story with your wedding dresses?
Then I bought the one that you saw on the show.
Then I got a second dress for the after-party.
Theyre sitting in my closet.
Im going to sell one and and donate one.
Thats the short answer.
Do you think whenSummer Houseends, youd still want to do unscripted TV?
I would hope that there was a way to follow my journey.
They seem to like me over there.
I give them a lot of content to work with.
Last question: Do you wish Carl well?
I wish him a journey of healing.
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
