Warning:Love Is Blindseasonseven, episode 12 spoilers ahead.
That was probably the only time I thought this might not work out.
Well, at least not at first.
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And now Im like, Dude, no.
Can we start with the breakfast talk about intimacy?
Marissa George:Ramses and I, obviously, were a very physical couple.
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And not just in a sexual manner, but also affection and touching.
That week we just had a lot going on.
So when we woke up, I just said, Hey, whats going on?
I could tell youre having anxiety about some stuff.
Because hes very obvious.
I can read him pretty well.
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And he had mentioned, well, I just feel like Im just nervous about our physical intimacy.
And I was like, Okay, what the hell?
So I instantly got annoyed because we are still getting to know each other and I dont feel good.
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I have an autoimmune disease.
And theres been a few times before that where hes petting me and Im overstimulated.
So he brings all that up, and then we start filming right after that.
At that point, I go to the balcony to get some air.
That hug felt a bit uncomfortable to me.
Did it feel like your boundaries were respected while watching that conversation back?
In the moment, I didnt feel like theywerentbeing respected.
As an adult, Im learning more about my boundaries and what that looks like.
But I also understood why he tried to touch me, because we were such a biblically affectionate couple.
So he wanted to venture to make me feel better.
It just wasnt the right time.
Clearly, I just was so annoyed and, honestly, stressed out.
I was particularly happy you brought up the statistics about men leaving their wives when they get sick.
Its real questions like thatand we had talked about this in the pods as well.
So its just kind of a reiteration of it.
I dont think we saw that conversation in the pods.
What did you two discuss?
There was a great conversation.
He had asked me, How can I show up for you?
How can I show up for you and help you in those moments?
And what was his response to that?
He said he was totally okay [with it].
I was like, We have sex every day, multiple times.
Like, I dont know why were bringing this up right now.
It did feel like he was very fixated on sex.
Yeah, he was.
Like, where did that duck lady come from?
Similar to this conversation, we were kind of dropped right into your breakup scene.
Can you explain what went on before the cameras were rolling?
And I come home from school one night, and hes very upset and emotional about his ex-wife.
Hes crying, and Im like, Whats going on, baby?
And hes like, I didnt realize how much I hurt my ex-wife.
I remember looking at him and thinking, This is somehow going to fuck us up.
That was probably the only time I thought this might not work out.
So the next day, hes just in a different mood.
He is not this chatty, lovey guy.
I didnt have class that day, so we were both at home and we arent meshing.
And then he calls a friend.
And the way he describes me to this friend, Im just like, Do you even like me?
What did he say?
His friends like, Oh my God, tell me all about this girl!
Im sitting right next to him and hes like, Oh, she’s just so full of energy…
He made me sound crazy.
I literally got up from the conversation.
I dont want to be here if youre gonna talk about me like that.
He doesnt notices for over an hour.
We go to bed, we dont even kiss goodnight.
I hope everythings okay.
And hes like, Yeah, Ive been having some doubts.
Im starting to feel doubts.
And he just starts crying.
It felt like such a gut-wrenching split.
Watching you sobbing wassucha stark contrast to the other breakups we’d witnessed this season.
I think with the other couples, the difference was none of us saw this breakup coming.
It wasnt like me and him were having big fights.
And I didnt think they were game changers at the time.
I asked him so many times, Are you sure?
And it wasnt because I wasnt sure.
It was because everything was just going so good.
He would always say, One hundred percent.
Love of my life.
Gonna marry you.
And so when he says we should break up and I dont want to date you…
I offered to not get married.
We can stay engaged, or we can do everything on our own timeline.
We dont have to move in immediately.
That was never the plan anyway.
We dont have to be engaged to date.
It was a hard no.
And that is what really tore me up.
Im a very smart person.
Ive spent a lot of years in therapy and really know what I want.
And it really turned me upside down, like it made me really question everything Ive ever believed in.
I know you havent seen the episode yet, but thats not in it.
You asked to continue dating outside of the show and he said no?
He said no, absolutely not.
Did he give an explanation?
Throughout the whole breakupwhich made it worsehe couldnt really give me a reason.
To this day, I dont know if he really has a good reason.
And Im like, Okay, well, lets just not move fast.
You stay in DC, I stay in Baltimore.
And he was like, No.
Then Im thinking, its me, because he’s saying its my energy.
He will tell you those issues did not play a role in why he didnt want to be together.
It was about my energy.
Its not like Im at home bouncing off the walls!
Like, if you don’t want me to talk during aNetflixshow, thats a preference.
I see him being overwhelmed by me in a way that I didnt see in person.
So I think Im less blindsided in that sense.
But otherwise, no, because those conversations never felt like the end of us.
They just felt like, you have your opinion about this, I have my opinion about this.
And now Im like,Dude, no.
Do you think hes the feminist he thinks he is?
I dont know…I dont think hes as feminist as he thinks he is, no.
I think he is a good person.
I just dont think he realizes how he comes across.
He did seem to talk down to you throughout the season.
Yeah, I agree with that perspective.
At the time, I didnt really notice it, but I see it now.
And I already have my sister being my progressive awakening.
I dont need yours.
Can we talk about your mom for a second?
What do you have to say about your relationship?
First off, she needs therapy, as I said on camera.
I think people just need to be a little bit more kind.
But that doesnt mean she freaking hates her children because she called me a bitch on TV.
We all have, come on.
Did she say anything to you after that meetup?
Yes, she did.
She puts a lot of emphasis…I mean, thats that generation, right?
Go to school, get a degree.
And she said that she felt like he had a superiority complex.
She tried to give him a chance.
The way he talked about [his divorce] was very much like, I did this for her.
I want to her to be happy.
And my moms like, Dont explain marriage or divorce to me.
That came across harsh.
Shes just trying to say he was talking down to her.
And shes saying,Im done with this conversation, youre trying make yourself sound like a saint.
She was like, Youre gonna have to carry that man emotionally.
Youre gonna have to take care of him.
And I saw that.
He sort of said that to you during the breakupthat he didnt want to hurt you down the line.
You know, I recognized that during the breakup.
I was like, You know, Rams, your ex-wife is getting married this month.
She was getting married the same month as us, ironically.
And I said, Shes getting married.
You guys were young.
I think for him, he knew he couldnt keep up, and he thought he wasnt good enough.
Him not being with me does not change how I feel about him.
Him breaking my heart does not change the love that I have for him.
So you think thats genuine?
Yeah, I do.
I go back and forth.
Honestly, sometimes Im like, Did he know this whole time he wasnt gonna marry me?
He just did it for the show?
Yeah, thats obviously crossed my mind.
Are you ready to see him again at the reunion?
I think itll be very difficult to see him but I think Ill make it through.
I think it will be emotional, because I still have a lot of love for him.
I dont think he has a lot of maliciousness in him.
Have you seen each other since the breakup?
We saw each other a few times after.
It took me probably six months to get back on track and to really start to move on.
So like, February or March, I did ask him if he wanted to get back together.
And hes like, Nah.
So after that, we just stopped communication.
Do you have anything you want people to know about you and Ramses?
He just really wasnt.
He is not this horrible person that everyone thinks he is.
So yeah, people, we need to be a little nicer.
I didnt fall in love with a horrible person.
